Jeffer2013
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I will start
official Radio for cruise trips
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Jeffer2013
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hahahahahahahaha
off to the city today so no time until later,
we need a official radio for cruises, hunting, shopping with wife at mall, and so on
we had some neat ones this past weekend,
a few months ago I was whining about this topic and a fellow member said, OK your the official research consultant (or something to that effect) and I made a contact on another forum after a sad trip to the local radio guy who installs hundreds of sets for the oilfield and wanted to get us ones with antenas ???? what is up with that
Spencer took a moment and posted about the radio in another forum and I would like some comments before placing my request before the powers that be (that be you boy)
I am buying a couple for me to use but really need everyone to be on the same page, more on this later,
the frs are garbage that I got for a hundred bucks, unless open road and a nice day a few hundred yards is all, and after a few Camaro cruises this was not working out so I asked around and was appointed head geek for this task,
so let us chat with your knowledge and please indicate whether you are mildly interested or just hijacking the thread,
in other words all comments are welcome but if you have no intention of EVER getting one then please
please
SHUT UP WHEN INDICATING A CHEAPER VERSION IS ALL YOU WOULD BUY, this inquiry if for people who may or do want to be able to communicate while on a cruise,
best case in point in Banff our group split up and a few of us went to the muster point without going to the other point of contact first, and the radios worked that we had
more on this later
off to the big city for the day
have fun and please contribute even if lipping off let us have fun with this one
Jeffy
off to the city today so no time until later,
we need a official radio for cruises, hunting, shopping with wife at mall, and so on
we had some neat ones this past weekend,
a few months ago I was whining about this topic and a fellow member said, OK your the official research consultant (or something to that effect) and I made a contact on another forum after a sad trip to the local radio guy who installs hundreds of sets for the oilfield and wanted to get us ones with antenas ???? what is up with that
Spencer took a moment and posted about the radio in another forum and I would like some comments before placing my request before the powers that be (that be you boy)
I am buying a couple for me to use but really need everyone to be on the same page, more on this later,
the frs are garbage that I got for a hundred bucks, unless open road and a nice day a few hundred yards is all, and after a few Camaro cruises this was not working out so I asked around and was appointed head geek for this task,
so let us chat with your knowledge and please indicate whether you are mildly interested or just hijacking the thread,
in other words all comments are welcome but if you have no intention of EVER getting one then please
please
SHUT UP WHEN INDICATING A CHEAPER VERSION IS ALL YOU WOULD BUY, this inquiry if for people who may or do want to be able to communicate while on a cruise,
best case in point in Banff our group split up and a few of us went to the muster point without going to the other point of contact first, and the radios worked that we had
off to the big city for the day
have fun and please contribute even if lipping off let us have fun with this one
Jeffy
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I hear ya Jeffy and Freda too as she was definitely not intending
to come from the back and find herself leading the cars down Banff Avenue
here is comment on trial sets that were used by three of us on the 2018 Mountain Cruise
FINAL DRAFT - 2018 CORVETTE MOUNTAIN CRUISE
I know @turbozig may have well versed comment to add on this as we were together in Montana this Summer where we had if'y cellular service and instant communication between two cars would have been rather helpful. I was with Ziggy in his car and Cindy was with Freda in my car.
I also understand @Jeffer2013 about the fact of "getting what we pay for" as an excellent and powerful resolve may likely require about a $300 investment per unit
Here is what YYC local Car Clubs are purchasing (and this supplier's pricing for us)
Set-up and Pre-programmed Channels 12 to 16 with Privacy (speed charging too).
With a couple of these, you can take them anywhere (like Costco and Ikea - lol)
There is no hurry to resolve this … and I am impressed with the source that Jeffy found. This fella has been on Cruises himself and supplies units to many Car Clubs & Groups - so we can be setup to join with others who already are. For those who want to come on a future Cruise of ours, he may also rent them on trial. So we don't need large numbers to jump on board right away but rather a discussion and decision on a preferred source & specification.
I'm sure @RockyPM and @Baby Ray and @rockitman may be able to tune-in and comment as well on this for their Corvette Museum Caravan next year (of which many here on CCF will be joining in on) as the sets may also come in rather valuable even when on foot at the Event as their group of 60+ cars may spread out. Although texting would be a good alternative for those with a roaming plan.
… and I would be down for purchasing two of these units that we decide on ...
to come from the back and find herself leading the cars down Banff Avenue
here is comment on trial sets that were used by three of us on the 2018 Mountain Cruise
FINAL DRAFT - 2018 CORVETTE MOUNTAIN CRUISE
I know @turbozig may have well versed comment to add on this as we were together in Montana this Summer where we had if'y cellular service and instant communication between two cars would have been rather helpful. I was with Ziggy in his car and Cindy was with Freda in my car.
I also understand @Jeffer2013 about the fact of "getting what we pay for" as an excellent and powerful resolve may likely require about a $300 investment per unit
Set-up and Pre-programmed Channels 12 to 16 with Privacy (speed charging too).
With a couple of these, you can take them anywhere (like Costco and Ikea - lol)
There is no hurry to resolve this … and I am impressed with the source that Jeffy found. This fella has been on Cruises himself and supplies units to many Car Clubs & Groups - so we can be setup to join with others who already are. For those who want to come on a future Cruise of ours, he may also rent them on trial. So we don't need large numbers to jump on board right away but rather a discussion and decision on a preferred source & specification.
I'm sure @RockyPM and @Baby Ray and @rockitman may be able to tune-in and comment as well on this for their Corvette Museum Caravan next year (of which many here on CCF will be joining in on) as the sets may also come in rather valuable even when on foot at the Event as their group of 60+ cars may spread out. Although texting would be a good alternative for those with a roaming plan.
… and I would be down for purchasing two of these units that we decide on ...
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ddgermann
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I’m in for the quality comms. Mark me down for 2. 
did anyone look at all at the bc linq radio
BCA BC Link Group Communications Radio 149-199
or the new one BACKCOUNTRY ACCESS BC LINK 2.0
new one 229.00
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BACKCOUNTRY ACCESS BC LINK 2.0
BCA BC Link Group Communications Radio 149-199
or the new one BACKCOUNTRY ACCESS BC LINK 2.0
new one 229.00
NEW
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BACKCOUNTRY ACCESS BC LINK 2.0
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Jeffer2013
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backcountry is only 2 watts of power,
what is the range per watt 1 km or 1 mile not sure so not very far,
I know the ratings are 64kms but they will only go 500 yards if there are trees
they will only go a mile in the line of sight
that is the problem you need 5 watts for cars, nothing less works very well at all
that is why real world testing was done last weekend and many others should chime in Jeff
what is the range per watt 1 km or 1 mile not sure so not very far,
I know the ratings are 64kms but they will only go 500 yards if there are trees
they will only go a mile in the line of sight
that is the problem you need 5 watts for cars, nothing less works very well at all
that is why real world testing was done last weekend and many others should chime in Jeff
good to know as I was going to buy the new bc link for sledding.. I'll watch this conversation and decide then..
Jeffer2013
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I will try to post more in a bit and I know very little as an expert on this but you need to rent or try them for your use before buying Jeff
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I had my lower wattage Uniden 2-way that I was able to dial in to the privacy setting and
work as a 2-way with our trial 5-watt Commercial Grade Motorola.
It took only about 3 to 4 transmissions to determine I should just shut the Uniden off.
The 5-watt Motorola did the job excellently. The only thing I see in very close comparison to this model
is something called Vertex Standard that has the same model numbers and maybe slightly less expensive.
by maybe $10-$20 (which just might be something that I relate to when I shopped my boat propeller when
considering a Mercury HiFive versus it's after-market QuickSilver version - same specs).
I do, however notice these Motorola and Vertex Standard units are commercial/business grade and require programming. So finding the supplier with programming and support may be a near top of the list factor in a decision.
work as a 2-way with our trial 5-watt Commercial Grade Motorola.
It took only about 3 to 4 transmissions to determine I should just shut the Uniden off.
The 5-watt Motorola did the job excellently. The only thing I see in very close comparison to this model
is something called Vertex Standard that has the same model numbers and maybe slightly less expensive.
by maybe $10-$20 (which just might be something that I relate to when I shopped my boat propeller when
considering a Mercury HiFive versus it's after-market QuickSilver version - same specs).
I do, however notice these Motorola and Vertex Standard units are commercial/business grade and require programming. So finding the supplier with programming and support may be a near top of the list factor in a decision.
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See, that is why you couldn't hear my 5.0 quiet channel announcements... you turned yours off.
Ya, the 2 way are good for 4-7 cars in a row... not anymore
that is why I mentioned the idea a channel for 5-6 cars then a second channel for 5-6 more if that is all people had. one 5 back has both channels on and relays the msg.
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See, that is why you couldn't hear my 5.0 quiet channel announcements... you turned yours off.
Rather correct you are B. I turned off the Uniden that was using those channels that you were as our trials were set to Ch14 & Pvcy. These Motorolas are good for our 15+ vehicles that we had. I'm confident that 30 to 50 cars would not be a problem. You were at the front but many noticed Freda going "Realgon" just after Lake Louise. A few thought it was the Coffee she had but it was part to get as many cars between our trial cars as possible. We got to 4th position and we were communicating excellently with Jeffy & Paul at the back … and around the Rocks too. I'm pretty much convinced that a "near to perfect" world will require this investment by a few of us (supplier rental for the casual) for business/commercial grade.
I appreciate and think the blended channel system would work for our 1&2 Watts however the front guy may not realize that the ones who follow like to jog ahead and go behind whenever they feel. We ripped ahead for the radio testing and then later slowed to the back to get our Caravan Photo shots … please know that my words here are intended to be constructive in our discussion toward a resolve. Afterall … this is what makes me smile regardless of much else.
whos the supplier? maybe an outlet in Manitoba... I know so far there is 20 cars so far going down to Bowing Green from manitoba corvette club. im on fence as need to get a second more reliable ride (vette,,61has no roof no air and no heat) have a couple of my udder cars up for sale now.
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I will ask this fella (the owner of the business here) if he can refer a contact for you ...
Jeffer2013
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Spence’s contact may be able to sell a bulk order and program them all the same
Alberta Manitoba and everywhere on between will then have the same frequency
just a thought, he could provide frequencies specs but a sale might be nice,
I am under the impression he is a forum member here but somewhat shy to enter into the discussion
My thoughts not trying to interfere. Jeff
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Actually Don is a rather decent fella. He may not be joining in this as we have discussed a Business
Respect that many share which includes not soliciting where one is not a supporting vendor. This displays
a lot of respect toward our CCF Gods and puts another check on my list of determining the worthiness of a
supplier.
Yes it also has value that common frequency/privacy setting is there for when we ever get something
like we had for MITM. We will already be compatible with many other (but not all) Alberta car clubs that he supplies.
..and giving credit where its due …
Jeffy found this supplier and I'm getting some credit only because of residing in proximity to Don.
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Ok just received Don's reply …
"Sorry, nobody (known to refer) in Manitoba, I don't have a problem shipping there (or anywhere actually)"
"... as for rentals, I have 35 similar (cheaperish) radios" (for when that time comes) ...
id be interested in a couple then as long as they r compatible with the bc link ones .. ill be with the manitoba vette guys this weekend at a show.. i have never asked about this. but i do know at the quad c stuff they r using talkies . i had a uniden one at one event . just checking other sites seems the more u buy the lesss expensive they r ..
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Sadly it will need to be the reverse (according to the Motorola Supplier) as the bc link would need to be able to be set to a particular channel for listening only and then to a particular privacy code to be able to talk & listen because the commercial/business units are programmed. I did this with my Unidens which worked real well within a short range (and within vision too) than what the Motorola was able to do (long range and out of sight). The Motorolas are high power 5w and work well between themselves. The lower wattage units will be only as good as they are and I think the bc link might transmit at only 1watt.
I've been told the Motorolas will not have a quantity discount … just a discount per unit "club price" whether one buys 1 or many … I can't find these Motorola Models for sale online but I can find the Vertex Standard version (might be a poor search engine I'm using - it would be helpful to let me know of the mutli-discount site though for Motorola VX-261u or VX-264u). Our price in one of my messages above includes having the units programmed which would not be otherwise free (unsure of Alberta SalesTax of GST5% only - on top of the unit price though).
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ddgermann
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I’ve used UHF and VHF Motorola radios all over the planet for years and these radios are more of a commercial quality thus the price. Programming is easy and can be done by the user to any publicly available frequency. We program ours here with no problems. I’ll ask the systems / IT geek.. ahhem, guy today and get some details on how easy it is.
For sure any communication company that Carrys Motorola can do it in minutes at a pretty low cost.
“ There’s an app for that” so no worries.
