GM, please copy this manual system and make it for the C9
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Is it still a dual clutch?
Yup . You have to use both feet to shift .....
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Yep. It has an auto mode mode when you don't want to shift the car or when your wife wants to drive the car. I would pay premium for this feature tbh.
I'd have to drive it. see how it reacts. What happens if you forget to downshift for example. On the C8 it shifts down at a certain RPM regardless. How tactile is it since it's all by wire. etc.
Probably feel different from a mechanical linkage I would imagine. And would you still be able to grind a gear ? Lol.
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The Ferrari system feels very mechanical apparently. The car will stall and bog if you don't shift the car. It is not like a video game.
I already know the answer.
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Can I know it?
Dave91TM
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Very interesting development. As the test drivers noted, it feels like a standard transmission. Certainly will not be a cheap option' but it is very innovative.
Only 1499 limited edition being made. The option will cost 190000 EURO over the base F12.
Do you are looking at over 1 million CDN out the door.
Do you are looking at over 1 million CDN out the door.
Where do I sign up?
Right! LOL
If you guys do a deep dive on pricing of this option and the history of GM outsourcing options like this,
you will have your answer. Todays focus at GM Canada was Cadillac.
you will have your answer. Todays focus at GM Canada was Cadillac.
Dave91TM
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Seems crazy but hasn't a Ferrari always been about the same price as a house?
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That's if they agree to sell you one ....
And there goes the option of speed shifting through the gears.... maybe 1-2, 3-4, and 5-6 would be decent but a gated manual...Try power shifting that pattern from 2nd to 3rd.... No thanks...
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And they are probably already sold out. Ferrari can charge wtv they want and it will be sold out. They need to get back the R&D cost some how and make a pretty penny along the way. Other models will get this system soon I think.
Lol.... True but it does sound like a manual transmission....
Tony Roma basically said he would love to have an actual manual transmission, but technically and cost wise it is not really possible.
Snippet from Motor I Com. ↓
Manual Transmission Problem
The C9 will likely keep the dual-clutch transaxle, even though Roma personally wants something else.
he said of a manual gearbox.
A manual for a mid-engine Corvette is not a parts swap onto an existing case. The C8's transaxle sits behind the engine, with the clutch pack and gear sets built around dual-clutch operation from the ground up.
Retrofitting a clutch pedal, linkage and a new gear case means new tooling, durability validation and emissions certification. It is the same three-step cost stack that applies to any new driveline, manual or not.
Roma noted the old front-engine manual setup took roughly 30 years to develop and refine. That timeline shows how much engineering sits behind what looks like a simple shifter and pedal.
"Transmissions are super expensive," Roma said. He was openly skeptical that an aftermarket solution, like a Tremec gearbox adapted after the fact, could clear production validation.
Roma called manual demand part of a cyclical pattern in the industry: real, but not large enough to justify a cost that works against the value positioning he is defending for the C9.
Snippet from Motor I Com. ↓
Manual Transmission Problem
The C9 will likely keep the dual-clutch transaxle, even though Roma personally wants something else.
he said of a manual gearbox.
A manual for a mid-engine Corvette is not a parts swap onto an existing case. The C8's transaxle sits behind the engine, with the clutch pack and gear sets built around dual-clutch operation from the ground up.
Retrofitting a clutch pedal, linkage and a new gear case means new tooling, durability validation and emissions certification. It is the same three-step cost stack that applies to any new driveline, manual or not.
Roma noted the old front-engine manual setup took roughly 30 years to develop and refine. That timeline shows how much engineering sits behind what looks like a simple shifter and pedal.
"Transmissions are super expensive," Roma said. He was openly skeptical that an aftermarket solution, like a Tremec gearbox adapted after the fact, could clear production validation.
Roma called manual demand part of a cyclical pattern in the industry: real, but not large enough to justify a cost that works against the value positioning he is defending for the C9.