Elections Canada - Please Read post Number 1

[LE BARON]

Much like perpetual motion....

Gone a bit too far overboard to be in the "Elections" thread

 

[Murray20c8]

Gone a bit too far overboard to be in the "Elections" thread

Agreed, but it was a theme in the election. Of course this thread might have been dead if you hadn't commented.
Should we lock it and move on? Perhaps later create a "We hate this government" thread? lol

 

[LE BARON]

Agreed, but it was a theme in the election. Of course this thread might have been dead if you hadn't commented.
Should we lock it and move on? Perhaps later create a "We hate this government" thread? lol

Well the election is over to some peoples dismay and to others approval.
If you leave it up here there is almost surely to be some kind of comment that has really nothing to do with what has just transpired.
After listening to Carney on his foray into the land of Oz my personal opinion is that the election picked the right guy for the job. Sure some will disagree but time will tell.
Seems to be a very level headed guy with a good sense of humour. I liked the jab at DJT when MC said he wasn't expecting any white smoke from the meeting. A little jab at DJT saying he wouldn't mind being pope (maybe for a day).
Plus he, on first glance, looks like he may be the guy to straighten out what Canada is all about. It's not about each province pushing their agenda, We can all try to pull the covers to our side but at some point we all need to keep warm together.
We need pipelines from coast to coast. We need "free" trade between the provinces.
We need a few things to make us realize we are stronger together than "separated".
We all have our wishes and aspirations to be "better". Together we can do it!

As a bit of an aside, I would also like to have enough where-with-all for a Yellow Split window ZR1. Bloody expensive with all those "lux" taxes and insurance (if you can get it). I won't hold it against CCF (I won't separate) if you guys do not help me attain my dreams. LOL

 

[1st Vette]

China added more of everything! They currently have 32% of the world's installed renewable energy, the next highest is the U.S. at 7%. They're set to add around 60% of newly installed renewable global capacity. They're building 30 nuclear reactors, the next highest is Russia with 7. I think we have 2 SMR's proposed in Canada for sometimes in the next decade.

I wish I wasn't sounding like a cheerleader for China, but they're sure are tackling their energy issues.

Saw this this morning.

Geoff Russ: B.C.'s grand green plans halted by dwindling power supply

Consumers are going to bear the cost of the government's ideological mismanagement of the electrical grid

nationalpost.com

Now , if the government continues with its “ clean electricity grid “ Bill we can expect a lot more of this scenario unfortunately . They should have learned a lesson from Germany and just recently Spain and Portugal .

The recent power blackout in Spain and Portugal on April 28, 2025, was caused by a combination of technical issues related to the Iberian electricity grid’s instability. Key factors included:
• A sudden and significant drop in solar photovoltaic (PV) generation, which plunged from over 18 GW to about 8 GW within five minutes, causing a large loss of generation capacity.
• An unexpected incident around 12:33 PM local time involved fluctuations in the grid and a sudden increase in wind energy production, which had been low until then.
• France abruptly stopped importing electricity from Spain, worsening the supply-demand imbalance and triggering the disconnection of the Iberian grid from the European network.
• The grid was operating with minimal “inertia” (energy stored in rotating masses like generators), which normally helps stabilize frequency changes. Low inertia made the grid more vulnerable to sudden drops in generation, leading to a collapse.
• Authorities ruled out cyberattacks and extreme weather as causes. Instead, the blackout is attributed to technical malfunctions and the challenges posed by the high share of renewable energy sources, which can fluctuate unpredictably.
The blackout affected nearly 60 million people, disrupted transportation and communications, and led to a state of emergency declaration in Madrid. Investigations by Spanish and Portuguese authorities, along with European experts, are ongoing to fully understand the event and improve grid resilience.

 

[LE BARON]

Saw this this morning.

Geoff Russ: B.C.'s grand green plans halted by dwindling power supply

Consumers are going to bear the cost of the government's ideological mismanagement of the electrical grid

nationalpost.com

Now , if the government continues with its “ clean electricity grid “ Bill we can expect a lot more of this scenario unfortunately . They should have learned a lesson from Germany and just recently Spain and Portugal .

The recent power blackout in Spain and Portugal on April 28, 2025, was caused by a combination of technical issues related to the Iberian electricity grid’s instability. Key factors included:
• A sudden and significant drop in solar photovoltaic (PV) generation, which plunged from over 18 GW to about 8 GW within five minutes, causing a large loss of generation capacity.
• An unexpected incident around 12:33 PM local time involved fluctuations in the grid and a sudden increase in wind energy production, which had been low until then.
• France abruptly stopped importing electricity from Spain, worsening the supply-demand imbalance and triggering the disconnection of the Iberian grid from the European network.
• The grid was operating with minimal “inertia” (energy stored in rotating masses like generators), which normally helps stabilize frequency changes. Low inertia made the grid more vulnerable to sudden drops in generation, leading to a collapse.
• Authorities ruled out cyberattacks and extreme weather as causes. Instead, the blackout is attributed to technical malfunctions and the challenges posed by the high share of renewable energy sources, which can fluctuate unpredictably.
The blackout affected nearly 60 million people, disrupted transportation and communications, and led to a state of emergency declaration in Madrid. Investigations by Spanish and Portuguese authorities, along with European experts, are ongoing to fully understand the event and improve grid resilience.

Governments don't "learn" anything.
Otherwise they would have learned to listen to people who know what they are talking about rather than trying to score political points for :environmental projects. Or political re-election points.
Do i believe we need to gravitate to less reliance on fossil fuels? Yes.
However if we were to listen to the tree huggers we would all be in caves trying to stay warm without any fire. After all, burning wood would be polluting!

 

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Governments don't "learn" anything.
Otherwise they would have learned to listen to people who know what they are talking about rather than trying to score political points for :environmental projects. Or political re-election points.
Do i believe we need to gravitate to less reliance on fossil fuels? Yes.
However if we were to listen to the tree huggers we would all be in caves trying to stay warm without any fire. After all, burning wood would be polluting!

You hit the nail on the head ! I suppose they could always rub their swollen heads together to stay warm , lol .

 

[WLGJ]

Prime Minister Minister Mark Carney cannot be trusted with our Charter-protected right to free expression.

The man has been clear: during the election campaign, Carney spoke scornfully of our most essential freedom, our speech, from which all our other freedoms flow.

Carney has hinted that his Liberal government will bring back some iteration of Trudeau’s tyrannical — there is no other word for it — Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, which was killed when the former prime minister prorogued parliament this January. You will recall that this now-defunct legislation would have granted judges the ability to mete out life sentences for hate speech, and would have created a government “Digital Safety Commission” to police Canadians’ speech, and impose life-destroying fines upon those whose speech was deemed hateful by our government censors.
It was frightening legislation. But not, apparently, to Prime Minister Carney.

In April, at two of Carney’s rallies in Ontario , he announced his government’s proposed plan to tackle crime and improve public safety. “Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, antisemitism, Islamophobia, and hate — in all its forms. And they’re being used by criminals to harm our children. My government will act,” said Carney.

Sound familiar? It should.

We have heard this before: Carney is using the same tactic of his predecessor. It was Justin Trudeau who first attempted to manipulate Canadians with fear for our children’s safety as a means to sneak in repressive, anti-free speech legislation.
Consider then-prime minister Trudeau’s words from a February 2024 news conference in Edmonton: “We know and everyone can agree that kids are vulnerable online, to hatred, to violence, to being bullied, to seeing and being affected by terrible things online. And we need to do a better job as a society to protect our kids online,” Trudeau said, one week before tabling Bill C-63 .

And now, back to Carney last month: “New online platforms have created new threats, including and perhaps especially for children… And as much as we, as parents, want to protect our kids, we can’t always be there. We can’t always be looking over our kids’ shoulders to see what they’re doing, or what they’re exposed to online. And so while protecting children is, first and foremost, a parent’s responsibility, it is also a collective responsibility. And with the support of Canadians, my government will act to protect children online and bring those who seek to harm them to justice. We will first introduce legislation to protect children from online exploitation and extortion.”
Using Trudeau’s old manipulation tactic, Carney has found an additional excuse to promote and justify government censorship. He revealed it at his April rally in Hamilton: “One of the issues we’re dealing with… misogyny, antisemitism, hatred, conspiracy theories — this sort of pollution that’s online that washes over our virtual borders from the United States… and, that’s fine… I can take the conspiracy theory and all that, but the more serious thing is when it affects how people behave in our society. When Canadians are threatened going to their community centres or their places of worship, or their schools,” said Carney.

Much like Trudeau first weaponized child safety to push for censorship, so too is Carney is using Canada’s despicable rise in antisemitic hate crimes, since the October 7 attack on Israel, to try to convince Canadians that what we really need protection from is, first and foremost, words on the internet.


Do not fall for it.

Carney has no proof that online discourse — our free expression — is directly responsible for hate crimes or violence on our streets. And even if he did have the proof, it still would not justify censorship. Nothing does.

In the introduction to his book Free Speech, Danish human rights lawyer Jacob Mchangama reminds us that the powerful have good reason to detest new technology, or, in Carney’s case, “new online platforms”: “New communication technology is inevitably disruptive and every new advancement —from the printing press to the internet — has been opposed by those whose institutional authority is vulnerable to being undermined by sudden change,” Mchangama writes.

In Carney’s case, his institutional authority is indeed vulnerable. It’s not merely that he rules via a minority, made possible only by the collapse of Canada’s New Democratic Party, but that the entire political agenda of Canada’s left is on shaky ground. Our youth are moving right. But it’s more than that: on climate, fossil fuels, immigration, race, gender, identity politics, and free speech, too — leftist social justice perspectives on each of these topics, which were orthodox throughout the Trudeau era, are falling out of favour.


Carney knows this.

We mustn’t be lulled into a false sense of security with Carney’s promises to end child exploitation, antisemitism, or any other devious or violent crimes — if only his government can control the information we have access to. Such promises have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with power.

While Canada’s economy can likely withstand four more years of asphyxiating Liberal policies, I’m not certain that our country can survive such a sustained attack on our freedom of expression.
Like I said trudeau s clone/policy wise! Dictators anyone?

 

[1st Vette]

Prime Minister Minister Mark Carney cannot be trusted with our Charter-protected right to free expression.

The man has been clear: during the election campaign, Carney spoke scornfully of our most essential freedom, our speech, from which all our other freedoms flow.

Carney has hinted that his Liberal government will bring back some iteration of Trudeau’s tyrannical — there is no other word for it — Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, which was killed when the former prime minister prorogued parliament this January. You will recall that this now-defunct legislation would have granted judges the ability to mete out life sentences for hate speech, and would have created a government “Digital Safety Commission” to police Canadians’ speech, and impose life-destroying fines upon those whose speech was deemed hateful by our government censors.
It was frightening legislation. But not, apparently, to Prime Minister Carney.

In April, at two of Carney’s rallies in Ontario , he announced his government’s proposed plan to tackle crime and improve public safety. “Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, antisemitism, Islamophobia, and hate — in all its forms. And they’re being used by criminals to harm our children. My government will act,” said Carney.

Sound familiar? It should.

We have heard this before: Carney is using the same tactic of his predecessor. It was Justin Trudeau who first attempted to manipulate Canadians with fear for our children’s safety as a means to sneak in repressive, anti-free speech legislation.
Consider then-prime minister Trudeau’s words from a February 2024 news conference in Edmonton: “We know and everyone can agree that kids are vulnerable online, to hatred, to violence, to being bullied, to seeing and being affected by terrible things online. And we need to do a better job as a society to protect our kids online,” Trudeau said, one week before tabling Bill C-63 .

And now, back to Carney last month: “New online platforms have created new threats, including and perhaps especially for children… And as much as we, as parents, want to protect our kids, we can’t always be there. We can’t always be looking over our kids’ shoulders to see what they’re doing, or what they’re exposed to online. And so while protecting children is, first and foremost, a parent’s responsibility, it is also a collective responsibility. And with the support of Canadians, my government will act to protect children online and bring those who seek to harm them to justice. We will first introduce legislation to protect children from online exploitation and extortion.”
Using Trudeau’s old manipulation tactic, Carney has found an additional excuse to promote and justify government censorship. He revealed it at his April rally in Hamilton: “One of the issues we’re dealing with… misogyny, antisemitism, hatred, conspiracy theories — this sort of pollution that’s online that washes over our virtual borders from the United States… and, that’s fine… I can take the conspiracy theory and all that, but the more serious thing is when it affects how people behave in our society. When Canadians are threatened going to their community centres or their places of worship, or their schools,” said Carney.

Much like Trudeau first weaponized child safety to push for censorship, so too is Carney is using Canada’s despicable rise in antisemitic hate crimes, since the October 7 attack on Israel, to try to convince Canadians that what we really need protection from is, first and foremost, words on the internet.


Do not fall for it.

Carney has no proof that online discourse — our free expression — is directly responsible for hate crimes or violence on our streets. And even if he did have the proof, it still would not justify censorship. Nothing does.

In the introduction to his book Free Speech, Danish human rights lawyer Jacob Mchangama reminds us that the powerful have good reason to detest new technology, or, in Carney’s case, “new online platforms”: “New communication technology is inevitably disruptive and every new advancement —from the printing press to the internet — has been opposed by those whose institutional authority is vulnerable to being undermined by sudden change,” Mchangama writes.

In Carney’s case, his institutional authority is indeed vulnerable. It’s not merely that he rules via a minority, made possible only by the collapse of Canada’s New Democratic Party, but that the entire political agenda of Canada’s left is on shaky ground. Our youth are moving right. But it’s more than that: on climate, fossil fuels, immigration, race, gender, identity politics, and free speech, too — leftist social justice perspectives on each of these topics, which were orthodox throughout the Trudeau era, are falling out of favour.


Carney knows this.

We mustn’t be lulled into a false sense of security with Carney’s promises to end child exploitation, antisemitism, or any other devious or violent crimes — if only his government can control the information we have access to. Such promises have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with power.

While Canada’s economy can likely withstand four more years of asphyxiating Liberal policies, I’m not certain that our country can survive such a sustained attack on our freedom of expression.
Like I said trudeau s clone/policy wise! Dictators anyone?

1984 !

 

[LE BARON]

Prime Minister Minister Mark Carney cannot be trusted with our Charter-protected right to free expression.

The man has been clear: during the election campaign, Carney spoke scornfully of our most essential freedom, our speech, from which all our other freedoms flow.

Carney has hinted that his Liberal government will bring back some iteration of Trudeau’s tyrannical — there is no other word for it — Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, which was killed when the former prime minister prorogued parliament this January. You will recall that this now-defunct legislation would have granted judges the ability to mete out life sentences for hate speech, and would have created a government “Digital Safety Commission” to police Canadians’ speech, and impose life-destroying fines upon those whose speech was deemed hateful by our government censors.
It was frightening legislation. But not, apparently, to Prime Minister Carney.

In April, at two of Carney’s rallies in Ontario , he announced his government’s proposed plan to tackle crime and improve public safety. “Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, antisemitism, Islamophobia, and hate — in all its forms. And they’re being used by criminals to harm our children. My government will act,” said Carney.

Sound familiar? It should.

We have heard this before: Carney is using the same tactic of his predecessor. It was Justin Trudeau who first attempted to manipulate Canadians with fear for our children’s safety as a means to sneak in repressive, anti-free speech legislation.
Consider then-prime minister Trudeau’s words from a February 2024 news conference in Edmonton: “We know and everyone can agree that kids are vulnerable online, to hatred, to violence, to being bullied, to seeing and being affected by terrible things online. And we need to do a better job as a society to protect our kids online,” Trudeau said, one week before tabling Bill C-63 .

And now, back to Carney last month: “New online platforms have created new threats, including and perhaps especially for children… And as much as we, as parents, want to protect our kids, we can’t always be there. We can’t always be looking over our kids’ shoulders to see what they’re doing, or what they’re exposed to online. And so while protecting children is, first and foremost, a parent’s responsibility, it is also a collective responsibility. And with the support of Canadians, my government will act to protect children online and bring those who seek to harm them to justice. We will first introduce legislation to protect children from online exploitation and extortion.”
Using Trudeau’s old manipulation tactic, Carney has found an additional excuse to promote and justify government censorship. He revealed it at his April rally in Hamilton: “One of the issues we’re dealing with… misogyny, antisemitism, hatred, conspiracy theories — this sort of pollution that’s online that washes over our virtual borders from the United States… and, that’s fine… I can take the conspiracy theory and all that, but the more serious thing is when it affects how people behave in our society. When Canadians are threatened going to their community centres or their places of worship, or their schools,” said Carney.

Much like Trudeau first weaponized child safety to push for censorship, so too is Carney is using Canada’s despicable rise in antisemitic hate crimes, since the October 7 attack on Israel, to try to convince Canadians that what we really need protection from is, first and foremost, words on the internet.


Do not fall for it.

Carney has no proof that online discourse — our free expression — is directly responsible for hate crimes or violence on our streets. And even if he did have the proof, it still would not justify censorship. Nothing does.

In the introduction to his book Free Speech, Danish human rights lawyer Jacob Mchangama reminds us that the powerful have good reason to detest new technology, or, in Carney’s case, “new online platforms”: “New communication technology is inevitably disruptive and every new advancement —from the printing press to the internet — has been opposed by those whose institutional authority is vulnerable to being undermined by sudden change,” Mchangama writes.

In Carney’s case, his institutional authority is indeed vulnerable. It’s not merely that he rules via a minority, made possible only by the collapse of Canada’s New Democratic Party, but that the entire political agenda of Canada’s left is on shaky ground. Our youth are moving right. But it’s more than that: on climate, fossil fuels, immigration, race, gender, identity politics, and free speech, too — leftist social justice perspectives on each of these topics, which were orthodox throughout the Trudeau era, are falling out of favour.


Carney knows this.

We mustn’t be lulled into a false sense of security with Carney’s promises to end child exploitation, antisemitism, or any other devious or violent crimes — if only his government can control the information we have access to. Such promises have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with power.

While Canada’s economy can likely withstand four more years of asphyxiating Liberal policies, I’m not certain that our country can survive such a sustained attack on our freedom of expression.
Like I said trudeau s clone/policy wise! Dictators anyone?

You would make a great MAGA writer.
Did you pick this out from one of their books?

 

[WLGJ]

You would make a great MAGA writer.
Did you pick this out from one of their books?

Nope but I am too young and intelligent to vote these liberals!

 

[LE BARON]

Nope but I am too young and intelligent to vote these liberals!

Well, whether we like him or not he is "our" PM now.
Sticking sticks in the the wheels and then complaining that he is not going fast enough is rather counter-productive, IMO.
Still better than PP proclaiming that he would use the N.W.C. to get what he thinks is best for his idea of Canada.
Lets see how Carney performs now that he has the gavel.
Seems quite level headed so far.

 

[WLGJ]

Well, whether we like him or not he is "our" PM now.
Sticking sticks in the the wheels and then complaining that he is not going fast enough is rather counter-productive, IMO.
Still better than PP proclaiming that he would use the N.W.C. to get what he thinks is best for his idea of Canada.
Lets see how Carney performs now that he has the gavel.
Seems quite level headed so far.

Just a few days in. As for maga= maggots, never, ever. I post hundreds of anti maggot post a year. I am the most independent voter a person can be. I rarely vote twice for the same party, unless they are doing a great job, which is rare!

 

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Conrad Black: And just like that, the Trump 'threat' disappears — National Post

Mark Carney's visit to Washington has shown that American aggression was never a real concern to begin with

apple.news

 

[LE BARON]

Conrad Black: And just like that, the Trump 'threat' disappears — National Post

Mark Carney's visit to Washington has shown that American aggression was never a real concern to begin with

apple.news

C.B. is useless. Anyone who listens to him spout his pro US rhetoric is wasting their time.

 

[1st Vette]

C.B. is useless. Anyone who listens to him spout his pro US rhetoric is wasting their time.

Got ya ! Lol. I had a $10.00 bet on that , .

 

[LE BARON]

Got ya ! Lol. I had a $10.00 bet on that , .

Trust you will put it to good use in the your Vette's gas tank.
Always glad to help.

 

[1st Vette]

Trust you will put it to good use in the your Vette's gas tank.
Always glad to help.

Yes , he certainly is a Trump apologist.

 

[cdnz]

C.B. is useless. Anyone who listens to him spout his pro US rhetoric is wasting their time.

He is in the same class as Kevin O Leary. This the same guy that give up his Canadian Citizenship and later begging Canada to let him come back or what ever the reasons were? Don't have time for either one.

 

[tyho]

Prime Minister Minister Mark Carney cannot be trusted with our Charter-protected right to free expression.

The man has been clear: during the election campaign, Carney spoke scornfully of our most essential freedom, our speech, from which all our other freedoms flow.

Carney has hinted that his Liberal government will bring back some iteration of Trudeau’s tyrannical — there is no other word for it — Bill C-63, the Online Harms Act, which was killed when the former prime minister prorogued parliament this January. You will recall that this now-defunct legislation would have granted judges the ability to mete out life sentences for hate speech, and would have created a government “Digital Safety Commission” to police Canadians’ speech, and impose life-destroying fines upon those whose speech was deemed hateful by our government censors.
It was frightening legislation. But not, apparently, to Prime Minister Carney.

In April, at two of Carney’s rallies in Ontario , he announced his government’s proposed plan to tackle crime and improve public safety. “Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, antisemitism, Islamophobia, and hate — in all its forms. And they’re being used by criminals to harm our children. My government will act,” said Carney.

Sound familiar? It should.

We have heard this before: Carney is using the same tactic of his predecessor. It was Justin Trudeau who first attempted to manipulate Canadians with fear for our children’s safety as a means to sneak in repressive, anti-free speech legislation.
Consider then-prime minister Trudeau’s words from a February 2024 news conference in Edmonton: “We know and everyone can agree that kids are vulnerable online, to hatred, to violence, to being bullied, to seeing and being affected by terrible things online. And we need to do a better job as a society to protect our kids online,” Trudeau said, one week before tabling Bill C-63 .

And now, back to Carney last month: “New online platforms have created new threats, including and perhaps especially for children… And as much as we, as parents, want to protect our kids, we can’t always be there. We can’t always be looking over our kids’ shoulders to see what they’re doing, or what they’re exposed to online. And so while protecting children is, first and foremost, a parent’s responsibility, it is also a collective responsibility. And with the support of Canadians, my government will act to protect children online and bring those who seek to harm them to justice. We will first introduce legislation to protect children from online exploitation and extortion.”
Using Trudeau’s old manipulation tactic, Carney has found an additional excuse to promote and justify government censorship. He revealed it at his April rally in Hamilton: “One of the issues we’re dealing with… misogyny, antisemitism, hatred, conspiracy theories — this sort of pollution that’s online that washes over our virtual borders from the United States… and, that’s fine… I can take the conspiracy theory and all that, but the more serious thing is when it affects how people behave in our society. When Canadians are threatened going to their community centres or their places of worship, or their schools,” said Carney.

Much like Trudeau first weaponized child safety to push for censorship, so too is Carney is using Canada’s despicable rise in antisemitic hate crimes, since the October 7 attack on Israel, to try to convince Canadians that what we really need protection from is, first and foremost, words on the internet.


Do not fall for it.

Carney has no proof that online discourse — our free expression — is directly responsible for hate crimes or violence on our streets. And even if he did have the proof, it still would not justify censorship. Nothing does.

In the introduction to his book Free Speech, Danish human rights lawyer Jacob Mchangama reminds us that the powerful have good reason to detest new technology, or, in Carney’s case, “new online platforms”: “New communication technology is inevitably disruptive and every new advancement —from the printing press to the internet — has been opposed by those whose institutional authority is vulnerable to being undermined by sudden change,” Mchangama writes.

In Carney’s case, his institutional authority is indeed vulnerable. It’s not merely that he rules via a minority, made possible only by the collapse of Canada’s New Democratic Party, but that the entire political agenda of Canada’s left is on shaky ground. Our youth are moving right. But it’s more than that: on climate, fossil fuels, immigration, race, gender, identity politics, and free speech, too — leftist social justice perspectives on each of these topics, which were orthodox throughout the Trudeau era, are falling out of favour.


Carney knows this.

We mustn’t be lulled into a false sense of security with Carney’s promises to end child exploitation, antisemitism, or any other devious or violent crimes — if only his government can control the information we have access to. Such promises have nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with power.

While Canada’s economy can likely withstand four more years of asphyxiating Liberal policies, I’m not certain that our country can survive such a sustained attack on our freedom of expression.
Like I said trudeau s clone/policy wise! Dictators anyone?

Trudeau senior started us on the fiscal abyss, JT propagated to to where it is now and Carney will be the nail in the coffin. Our true north strong and free is slowly loosing its freedom and the mounting debt will demand more taxes.

 

[LE BARON]

Trudeau senior started us on the fiscal abyss, JT propagated to to where it is now and Carney will be the nail in the coffin. Our true north strong and free is slowly loosing its freedom and the mounting debt will demand more taxes.

As I posted previously on here, the Libs were the only ones to balance the budget and run a surplus back in the 90's Harper (( think he was/is a Con) was by far the worst to run a deficit.
So spout the usual political talking points depending on the colour of your stripe. They all blame each other and nothing gets done to address the situation.
At least M.C. has good financial creds. We'll see how he does.