Elections Canada - Please Read post Number 1

Ooooo! I need to start a thread on why a carbon tax is actually a good thing! That won't be a controversial topic at all...

Also, for those people that keep posting how Canada contributes such a small amount of CO2. Look at it per capita. We're the 13th highest in the world, higher than all but the oil monarchies and Australia. Canada, 14.99 tons per person, China is 8.89 tons per person. The issue is that because of China's population, their emissions have increase almost 450% since 1990 as they modernize. China produces 32% of global renewable electricity, followed by the U.S. (11%), Brazil (7%), Canada (4.7%), and India (4.3%). So population is by far the largest factor, but pointing a finger at countries like China and the U.S. isn't totally fair.

Another interesting fact, most of Canada is powered by renewable sources of electricity. 60% by hydro, followed by nuclear (14%), natural gas (12%), and wind (6%). Only Alberta, Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia, and Nunavut generate the majority of power from fossil fuels. If you're in B.C., Quebec, or Ontario, then you're likely using 100% renewable power.
Woohoo for Ontario, Quebec and BC.... Alberta, Sask, NS, and Nunavut would love to have cheap hydro power. Send us some rivers that lend themselves to hydroelectric dams and maybe we can lessen our dependability on fossil fuels. Then, like Quebec, we can sit back and collect our have-not equalization pay cheques. jmo
 
I'm in a funny situation. I'm a geologist and I still support mining and oil and gas. We need plastics after all. I've also done a lot of sustainability work. I love cars. I love drag racing and muscle cars. I get why people are sensitive when you touch fuel prices. I also support the carbon tax and I want to leave a habitable planet to my kids.

I'm always happy to discuss the topic, but I also understand why it's a loaded issue.
You are certainly free to pay whatever amount you would like into the coffers for me if you’d like. I have no problem with that.
I might ask the Funeral Home to wrap me PPF to avoid God's Carbon Tax...
Maybe a couple of good coats of ceramic first…;)
 
Consider the source. Guess who the largest polluters in Canada are? @1st Vette's home NWT and Alberta. So you know who will be your biggest competitors in the climate change argument! ;)
Would not be adverse to seeing some supporting data to back up your outlandish claims regarding the NT ….. I do understand that every time one of our 45,000 residents fire up the barbecue that we are probably hastening the end of the world but , there is nothing like the smell of a sizzling sirloin on the grill, lol . Not sure what the other 8.5 BILLION residents of our planet are up to , but wait……
As of recent data, about 26% to 29% of the global population still cook using polluting fuels, many of which are fossil fuels like kerosene and coal, as well as biomass and charcoal. This translates to roughly 2.1 to 2.6 billion people worldwide relying on these polluting fuels for cooking in 2022-2023 .
 
I'm in a funny situation. I'm a geologist and I still support mining and oil and gas. We need plastics after all. I've also done a lot of sustainability work. I love cars. I love drag racing and muscle cars. I get why people are sensitive when you touch fuel prices. I also support the carbon tax and I want to leave a habitable planet to my kids.

I'm always happy to discuss the topic, but I also understand why it's a loaded issue.
You do make some good points. Given that everything either grows out of the ground or is dug out of the ground how about we stop doing both as a number of disillusioned individuals lobby for and it would before long solve the problem. Permanently. RIP . ;)
 
Consider the source. Guess who the largest polluters in Canada are? @1st Vette's home NWT and Alberta. So you know who will be your biggest competitors in the climate change argument! ;)
OK . I took your bait , lol . Thought I might mention that up here over half of our population is on hydro. Many Northern communities are on diesel power generation though . To supply the 20,000 or so people that live in off grid communities. How dare they !
 
OK . I took your bait , lol . Thought I might mention that up here over half of our population is on hydro. Many Northern communities are on diesel power generation though . To supply the 20,000 or so people that live in off grid communities. How dare they !
Would not be adverse to seeing some supporting data to back up your outlandish claims regarding the NT ….. I do understand that every time one of our 45,000 residents fire up the barbecue that we are probably hastening the end of the world but , there is nothing like the smell of a sizzling sirloin on the grill, lol . Not sure what the other 8.5 BILLION residents of our planet are up to , but wait……
As of recent data, about 26% to 29% of the global population still cook using polluting fuels, many of which are fossil fuels like kerosene and coal, as well as biomass and charcoal. This translates to roughly 2.1 to 2.6 billion people worldwide relying on these polluting fuels for cooking in 2022-2023 .
Yeah, the NWT is only high on a per capita basis, for those reasons you state. They use a lot of diesel power in the northern communities and there isn't that much hydro power available that isn't already used. It's expensive to build up there! A small modular reactor would work great in the north.

Here are a couple good general references. I didn't know that B.C. actually produces the second most Natural Gas in Canada and it's not even close!


 
Yeah, the NWT is only high on a per capita basis, for those reasons you state. They use a lot of diesel power in the northern communities and there isn't that much hydro power available that isn't already used. It's expensive to build up there! A small modular reactor would work great in the north.

Here are a couple good general references. I didn't know that B.C. actually produces the second most Natural Gas in Canada and it's not even close!


Yes, for sure modular reactors are interesting technology. There is always the discussion regarding radiation exposure and waste disposal but if done properly there is certainly a very good argument in favour. The energy production options are certainly limited, lesser of the evils is what should be considered. Solar ir very far from “ carbon neutral “ . My greenhouse's like CO2 though, lol .
 
Yeah, the NWT is only high on a per capita basis, for those reasons you state. They use a lot of diesel power in the northern communities and there isn't that much hydro power available that isn't already used. It's expensive to build up there! A small modular reactor would work great in the north.

Here are a couple good general references. I didn't know that B.C. actually produces the second most Natural Gas in Canada and it's not even close!


Sorry about the reticence to put a lot of faith in these links but it is the wordy.gov. dept. that tells us if we don’t live in the cold and dark that we are all going to die. :ROFL:
 
OK . I took your bait , lol . Thought I might mention that up here over half of our population is on hydro. Many Northern communities are on diesel power generation though . To supply the 20,000 or so people that live in off grid communities. How dare they !
It was a poke, but per capita the NWT is high, but generally it's low.
  • High Per Capita Emissions:
    Due to its small population, the NWT's per capita emissions are among the highest in Canada.
 
It was a poke, but per capita the NWT is high, but generally it's low.
  • High Per Capita Emissions:
    Due to its small population, the NWT's per capita emissions are among the highest in Canada.
I understand. The per capita view though is completely meaningless in the big picture. And it’s the big picture that should be focused on.
 
I understand. The per capita view though is completely meaningless in the big picture. And it’s the big picture that should be focused on.
Not really. We have no control over the big picture. We can only do what we can do. Ignoring the issue is, IMO, irresponsible.
 
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Not really. We have no control over the big picture. We can only do what we can do. Ignoring the issue is, IMO, irresponsible.
You can as an individual stop driving your vehicles, buy a solar oven , turn down your thermostat among other things. Be sure to let us know how much of a difference this makes relative to the Global climate….oh , I know, if only everyone would do that….now if these guys would get onboard, not to mention the 1.5 billion people in India then I could see an argument in favour.
China is building a very large number of coal-fired power plants annually. In 2024, construction started on 94.5 gigawatts (GW) of new coal-fired power capacity, the highest level in the past 10 years, along with 3.3 GW of resumed suspended projects. In 2023, China began construction on 70.2 GW of new coal power plants, which was 19 times more than the rest of the world combined. This translates roughly to about two new large coal plants per week. The surge in coal plant construction has been ongoing since 2022 after a period of decline from 2015 to 2021.
Overall, China is adding tens of gigawatts of coal power capacity each year, with 70-95 GW starting construction annually in recent years, which is a significant global share of new coal power development.
 
China added more of everything! They currently have 32% of the world's installed renewable energy, the next highest is the U.S. at 7%. They're set to add around 60% of newly installed renewable global capacity. They're building 30 nuclear reactors, the next highest is Russia with 7. I think we have 2 SMR's proposed in Canada for sometimes in the next decade.

I wish I wasn't sounding like a cheerleader for China, but they're sure are tackling their energy issues.
 
China added more of everything! They currently have 32% of the world's installed renewable energy, the next highest is the U.S. at 7%. They're set to add around 60% of newly installed renewable global capacity. They're building 30 nuclear reactors, the next highest is Russia with 7. I think we have 2 SMR's proposed in Canada for sometimes in the next decade.

I wish I wasn't sounding like a cheerleader for China, but they're sure are tackling their energy issues.
That is encouraging for sure and a good thing considering that they have to provide power for over 1.4 Billion people. Then again, some day we may actually achieve cold fusion and all of our end of the world fears will evaporate. Then again cold fusion has been only 5 to 10 years away for the last 50 or so.
 
That is encouraging for sure and a good thing considering that they have to provide power for over 1.4 Billion people. Then again, some day we may actually achieve cold fusion and all of our end of the world fears will evaporate. Then again cold fusion has been only 5 to 10 years away for the last 50 or so.
Much like perpetual motion.... :rolleyes:
 

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