Your View on New Pipeline to BC's North coast and other Canadian Pipeline Dreams

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Adam Pankratz: UNDRIP is strangling Canada's economy
The Edmonton-Ottawa memorandum of understanding will be meaningless if First Nations are given a veto, even in areas they don't legally control .

If there is one takeaway from the recent memorandum of understanding (MOU) between the federal and Alberta governments on a potential new oil pipeline to the West Coast, it’s that Canada needs to abandon the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (UNDRIP) and return to our own framework for reconciliation: Section 35 of the Constitution Act, 1982.
UNDRIP is proving to be a disaster. In British Columbia, we are seeing firsthand the extraordinarily deleterious effects of UNDRIP through its legislative application in the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act, which B.C. passed in 2019. The act seeks to bring the province’s laws into conformity with the principles of UNDRIP, and the effects are already proving to be detrimental to the province — and to the cause of reconciliation.
Among the 46 articles of UNDRIP, certain ones are proving to have more immediate impacts than others. Article 26, for example, states that, “Indigenous peoples have the right to own, use, develop and control the lands, territories and resources that they possess by reason of traditional ownership or other traditional occupation or use.” That is to say, if an Indigenous group claims a territory, they own it and all its resources.



Yet the standard that the Supreme Court of Canada uses as its test for declarations of Aboriginal title is not this simple. In the Canadian context, the court has described Aboriginal title as, “The unique product of the historic relationship between the Crown and the Aboriginal group in question.” In British Columbia, the test is proof of exclusive occupancy as of 1846.


This results in declarations of Aboriginal title to a much smaller piece of land than the traditional or claimed territory. In the landmark Tsilhqotʼin Nation v British Columbia case, for example, the Supreme Court granted Aboriginal title to less than five per cent of the band’s traditional territory.
In August, a B.C. judge found that Aboriginal title is a “senior interest” to fee simple title, and that B.C.’s Land Title Act doesn’t necessarily protect private property from Aboriginal title claims. At a similar time, and clearly following the UNDRIP principles, the B.C. government signed an agreement, which acknowledged the Haida Nation’s Aboriginal title over all of Haida Gwaii.
Put those two events together and you now have a situation where private land owners on Haida Gwaii appear to own their land at the pleasure of the Haida, not by indefeasible title under the Land Title Act.
Another UNDRIP principle that is causing extreme confusion is Article 32.2, which states that, “States shall consult and co-operate in good faith with the Indigenous peoples concerned through their own representative institutions in order to obtain their free and informed consent prior to the approval of any project affecting
their lands or territories and other resources.”
This “free and informed consent” requirement goes much further than the Supreme Court’s “duty to consult” doctrine. It is impossible to see the confusion emanating from nearly everything the government does these days on large projects of national or economic importance and not recognize how UNDRIP is slowly sinking Canada’s economy as politicians speak of the necessity to get First Nations’ consent.
The Assembly of First Nations recently passed a resolution rejecting changes to the oil tanker ban as outlined in the MOU between Alberta and the federal government. B.C. Premier David Eby has also said that lifting the ban would endanger billions of dollars worth of projects that require the consent of First Nations in the area. This is quite clearly UNDRIP once again raising its veto head, which the B.C. NDP are happy to uphold.
A recent poll found that a majority of British Columbians are in favour of a pipeline to the coast. Yet UNDRIP, an aspirational document never intended to be law for Canada, is throttling the ability of Canada’s economy to expand. This can only hurt reconciliation, along with all the hard-working Canadians who are staring down a dismal fiscal outlook. It’s time for Canada to ditch UNDIRP and return to Sec. 35 of our own Constitution as the blueprint for reconciliation and economic prosperity.
 
I was wondering why publications like the National Post and various "SUN" newspapers are fairly right wing slanted so I did a little digging on their ownership as well as the people owning the holding companies. Quite illuminating as per below. a little AI search brought this out. A bit long to read but none the less it is interesting. Have at it.


Both the National Post and the Toronto Sun are owned by Postmedia Network, a Canadian media conglomerate. Editorially, both papers are widely recognized as right-leaning / conservative in their political stance.

📰 Ownership & Political Leanings

Sources:

🔎 Key Details
• National Post
• Originally launched by Conrad Black to counterbalance The Globe and Mail.
• Editorial stance: conservative, often supportive of Canadian Alliance/Conservative Party positions.
• Despite Izzy Asper (former CanWest owner) being a Liberal supporter, the paper itself retained a strong right-wing editorial line.
• Frequently criticized for being hostile toward Liberal governments.
• Toronto Sun
• Tabloid format, emphasizing local issues, crime, sports, and populist politics.
• Acquired by Postmedia in 2015 when it bought Sun Media from Quebecor.
• Editorial stance: conservative, often aligned with populist right-wing views, with a reputation for sensationalist headlines.
• Maintains a distinct newsroom from the National Post, though both are housed in the same Toronto building.

⚠️ Considerations & Influence
• Postmedia Network itself is majority-owned by U.S. hedge funds, notably Chatham Asset Management. This has raised concerns about foreign influence in Canadian media.
• Both papers are part of a broader Postmedia portfolio that includes many major Canadian dailies (Ottawa Citizen, Montreal Gazette, Calgary Herald, Vancouver Sun).
• Their editorial leanings shape Canadian discourse, often amplifying conservative perspectives, especially in contrast to more centrist (Globe and Mail) or left-leaning (Toronto Star) outlets.

Direct Answer:
Chatham Asset Management is a privately held American hedge fund founded and owned by Anthony Melchiorre, a wealthy Republican donor. He remains the key figure behind the firm, headquartered in Chatham Borough, New Jersey.

🏢 Ownership Structure


🔎 Key Facts About Chatham
• Canadian Media Influence:
In 2016, Chatham acquired a two-thirds controlling stake in Postmedia Network, which owns the National Post, Toronto Sun, and many other Canadian dailies. This raised concerns about foreign (U.S.) influence in Canadian journalism.
• Political Connections:
• Melchiorre is a major Republican donor, with ties to Donald Trump.
• Chatham was linked to David Pecker (publisher of the National Enquirer), who had a pact with Trump to suppress damaging stories. Pecker even sat on Postmedia’s board from 2016–2018.
• Controversies:
• In 2023, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission charged Chatham and Melchiorre with improper trading of fixed income securities, resulting in fines of over $19.3 million.
• Chatham has a reputation for aggressive cost-cutting, often reducing staff and consolidating editorial operations at its media holdings.

⚠️ Why This Matters for Canada
• Foreign Ownership: Postmedia’s control by Chatham challenges the assumption that Canada’s largest newspaper chain is Canadian-owned.
• Editorial Influence: With Chatham’s strong Republican ties, critics argue that Canadian papers like the National Post and Toronto Sun reflect U.S.-style conservative politics more than Canadian traditions.
• Democratic Concerns: Media unions and commentators have warned that hedge fund ownership prioritizes profit over journalism, leading to newsroom cuts and weakened local coverage.

Summary:
Chatham Asset Management is owned and led by Anthony Melchiorre, a U.S. hedge fund manager with strong Republican ties. Through Chatham, he controls Postmedia and thus the National Post and Toronto Sun, embedding American conservative influence into Canadian media.

Direct Answer:
Postmedia Network, which owns the National Post and Toronto Sun, is majority-controlled by Chatham Asset Management, a U.S. hedge fund founded by Anthony Melchiorre. Because Canadian law restricts foreign control of media, Chatham cannot directly run Postmedia but elects one-third of its board and holds most of its debt, giving it substantial influence.

🏢 Postmedia Board & Chatham’s Influence

Sources:

🔎 Key Points of Influence
• Foreign Ownership Limits:
Canadian law prevents Chatham from outright control, but its board seats and debt covenants give it effective sway over strategy and cost-cutting.
• Editorial Concerns:
Former employees argue that Chatham’s financial priorities shape editorial direction, pushing Postmedia outlets toward conservative, U.S.-style politics.
• Cost-Cutting Track Record:
Since Chatham’s takeover, Postmedia has:
• Cut staff and salaries
• Shuttered papers across Canada
• Centralized editorial operations, making many papers “clones” of one another
• Political Connections:
• Anthony Melchiorre: major Republican donor.
• David Pecker: Trump ally, linked to “catch-and-kill” scandals at the National Enquirer, sat on Postmedia’s board.
• These ties reinforce perceptions of U.S. conservative influence in Canadian media.

⚠️ Why This Matters
• Media Independence: Canada’s largest newspaper chain is effectively steered by a U.S. hedge fund with Republican ties.
• Editorial Homogenization: Local voices are diminished as Postmedia papers share centralized content.
• Democratic Concerns: Critics warn that hedge fund ownership prioritizes profit over journalism, weakening Canadian media diversity.

Summary:
Chatham Asset Management, led by Anthony Melchiorre, owns most of Postmedia and controls one-third of its board. Through debt leverage and board seats, Chatham exerts strong influence, reinforced by ties to U.S. Republican politics. This explains why the National Post and Toronto Sun consistently lean conservative and why Canadian media independence is a growing concern.
 
I was wondering why publications like the National Post and various "SUN" newspapers are fairly right wing slanted so I did a little digging on their ownership as well as the people owning the holding companies. Quite illuminating as per below. a little AI search brought this out. A bit long to read but none the less it is interesting. Have at it.


Both the National Post and the Toronto Sun are owned by Postmedia Network, a Canadian media conglomerate. Editorially, both papers are widely recognized as right-leaning / conservative in their political stance.

📰 Ownership & Political Leanings

Sources:

🔎 Key Details
• National Post
• Originally launched by Conrad Black to counterbalance The Globe and Mail.
• Editorial stance: conservative, often supportive of Canadian Alliance/Conservative Party positions.
• Despite Izzy Asper (former CanWest owner) being a Liberal supporter, the paper itself retained a strong right-wing editorial line.
• Frequently criticized for being hostile toward Liberal governments.
• Toronto Sun
• Tabloid format, emphasizing local issues, crime, sports, and populist politics.
• Acquired by Postmedia in 2015 when it bought Sun Media from Quebecor.
• Editorial stance: conservative, often aligned with populist right-wing views, with a reputation for sensationalist headlines.
• Maintains a distinct newsroom from the National Post, though both are housed in the same Toronto building.

⚠️ Considerations & Influence
• Postmedia Network itself is majority-owned by U.S. hedge funds, notably Chatham Asset Management. This has raised concerns about foreign influence in Canadian media.
• Both papers are part of a broader Postmedia portfolio that includes many major Canadian dailies (Ottawa Citizen, Montreal Gazette, Calgary Herald, Vancouver Sun).
• Their editorial leanings shape Canadian discourse, often amplifying conservative perspectives, especially in contrast to more centrist (Globe and Mail) or left-leaning (Toronto Star) outlets.

Direct Answer:
Chatham Asset Management is a privately held American hedge fund founded and owned by Anthony Melchiorre, a wealthy Republican donor. He remains the key figure behind the firm, headquartered in Chatham Borough, New Jersey.

🏢 Ownership Structure


🔎 Key Facts About Chatham
• Canadian Media Influence:
In 2016, Chatham acquired a two-thirds controlling stake in Postmedia Network, which owns the National Post, Toronto Sun, and many other Canadian dailies. This raised concerns about foreign (U.S.) influence in Canadian journalism.
• Political Connections:
• Melchiorre is a major Republican donor, with ties to Donald Trump.
• Chatham was linked to David Pecker (publisher of the National Enquirer), who had a pact with Trump to suppress damaging stories. Pecker even sat on Postmedia’s board from 2016–2018.
• Controversies:
• In 2023, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission charged Chatham and Melchiorre with improper trading of fixed income securities, resulting in fines of over $19.3 million.
• Chatham has a reputation for aggressive cost-cutting, often reducing staff and consolidating editorial operations at its media holdings.

⚠️ Why This Matters for Canada
• Foreign Ownership: Postmedia’s control by Chatham challenges the assumption that Canada’s largest newspaper chain is Canadian-owned.
• Editorial Influence: With Chatham’s strong Republican ties, critics argue that Canadian papers like the National Post and Toronto Sun reflect U.S.-style conservative politics more than Canadian traditions.
• Democratic Concerns: Media unions and commentators have warned that hedge fund ownership prioritizes profit over journalism, leading to newsroom cuts and weakened local coverage.

Summary:
Chatham Asset Management is owned and led by Anthony Melchiorre, a U.S. hedge fund manager with strong Republican ties. Through Chatham, he controls Postmedia and thus the National Post and Toronto Sun, embedding American conservative influence into Canadian media.

Direct Answer:
Postmedia Network, which owns the National Post and Toronto Sun, is majority-controlled by Chatham Asset Management, a U.S. hedge fund founded by Anthony Melchiorre. Because Canadian law restricts foreign control of media, Chatham cannot directly run Postmedia but elects one-third of its board and holds most of its debt, giving it substantial influence.

🏢 Postmedia Board & Chatham’s Influence

Sources:

🔎 Key Points of Influence
• Foreign Ownership Limits:
Canadian law prevents Chatham from outright control, but its board seats and debt covenants give it effective sway over strategy and cost-cutting.
• Editorial Concerns:
Former employees argue that Chatham’s financial priorities shape editorial direction, pushing Postmedia outlets toward conservative, U.S.-style politics.
• Cost-Cutting Track Record:
Since Chatham’s takeover, Postmedia has:
• Cut staff and salaries
• Shuttered papers across Canada
• Centralized editorial operations, making many papers “clones” of one another
• Political Connections:
• Anthony Melchiorre: major Republican donor.
• David Pecker: Trump ally, linked to “catch-and-kill” scandals at the National Enquirer, sat on Postmedia’s board.
• These ties reinforce perceptions of U.S. conservative influence in Canadian media.

⚠️ Why This Matters
• Media Independence: Canada’s largest newspaper chain is effectively steered by a U.S. hedge fund with Republican ties.
• Editorial Homogenization: Local voices are diminished as Postmedia papers share centralized content.
• Democratic Concerns: Critics warn that hedge fund ownership prioritizes profit over journalism, weakening Canadian media diversity.

Summary:
Chatham Asset Management, led by Anthony Melchiorre, owns most of Postmedia and controls one-third of its board. Through debt leverage and board seats, Chatham exerts strong influence, reinforced by ties to U.S. Republican politics. This explains why the National Post and Toronto Sun consistently lean conservative and why Canadian media independence is a growing concern.
What was the AI source of this " information " out of curiosity ? Which would have been gathered from online news articles, opinion pieces and editorials etc . I have yet to see the " left " flatter the right and vice versa . Seems overall somewhat left leaning ........... ;) to say the least . That's not to say that it's all inaccurate.
 
What was the AI source of this " information " out of curiosity ? Which would have been gathered from online news articles, opinion pieces and editorials etc . I have yet to see the " left " flatter the right and vice versa . Seems overall somewhat left leaning ........... ;) to say the least . That's not to say that it's all inaccurate.
Every media outlet there is has one leg shorter than the other. Some lean right, some lean left. Our own personal lean supports which we tend to follow and quote.
 
Every media outlet there is has one leg shorter than the other. Some lean right, some lean left. Our own personal lean supports which we tend to follow and quote.
True . Although it does seem that the CBC had it's right leg amputated at the hip . And yes , it is human nature to seek out opinions that align with one's own views .
 
These guys do seem to be very non partisan.
 
These guys do seem to be very non partisan.
Used these guys quite a bit awhile back....about 9 - 10 years ago...when my so called Drumpf or Trudumb "friends/fans" tried to feed me bull crap....
But my built in crap recognition unit is now up and running....................and got rid of the "friends/fans"
 
These guys do seem to be very non partisan.
Thx for sharing. I bookmarked it.
 
Used these guys quite a bit awhile back....about 9 - 10 years ago...when my so called Drumpf or Trudumb "friends/fans" tried to feed me bull crap....
But my built in crap recognition unit is now up and running....................and got rid of the "friends/fans"
Yes , I often refer to them when I see an article from a source I'm not familiar with which is happening more and more . Seems anyone with a laptop and internet connection can call themselves a " news source " these days. Getting harder to filter the truth from the fluff/click bait.
 
What was the AI source of this " information " out of curiosity ? Which would have been gathered from online news articles, opinion pieces and editorials etc . I have yet to see the " left " flatter the right and vice versa . Seems overall somewhat left leaning ........... ;) to say the least . That's not to say that it's all inaccurate.
CO-PILOT
All that to say that if something seems to be leaning one way or another consistently then maybe, just maybe, a grain of salt might be in order
 
Co-Pilot... Another AI.... Just what the world thinks it needs.... And yes.... I lean consistently that way so reach for the salt shaker.... :angelic:
It paid for my car so no complaints from that angle. AI is going to advance to the point where it will be mainstream and most won't give it a second thought. There are some really good aspects of Large Language Models though such as designing new pharmaceuticals which it is already making big advances in . It's not all doom and gloom. Not yet anyway........
 
It paid for my car so no complaints from that angle. AI is going to advance to the point where it will be mainstream and most won't give it a second thought. There are some really good aspects of Large Language Models though such as designing new pharmaceuticals which it is already making big advances in . It's not all doom and gloom. Not yet anyway........
I guess if AI had paid for my car I might have a bit more tolerance.
 
Co-Pilot... Another AI.... Just what the world thinks it needs.... And yes.... I lean consistently that way so reach for the salt shaker.... :angelic:
The salt shaker is always handy, both left and right.
Either one is subject to exaggeration and conjecture. It is up to us to use our wits and decide when there is a bit too much fluff.
Just one exception though. Corvettes are the best cars around.
 

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