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Gouging , noun -----the action of charging someone too much money for something, in a way that is dishonest or unfair:
Sorry, I would have to respectfully disagree with this statement. The MSRP is just that a suggested retail price. If someone is willing to pay an ADM, then why should the vendor take less than market price? If the market price is fair then the product will sell, if not then the dealer is stuck with the car and losses on the carrying costs and any potential discount that they have to offer to actually sell it. That is how the free market works.
 
Sorry, I would have to respectfully disagree with this statement. The MSRP is just that a suggested retail price. If someone is willing to pay an ADM, then why should the vendor take less than market price? If the market price is fair then the product will sell, if not then the dealer is stuck with the car and losses on the carrying costs and any potential discount that they have to offer to actually sell it. That is how the free market works.
If someone is willing to pay over the tag that is certainly their prerogative. Just because a particular item be it a Playstation 5 or a recent model of Graphics Card or a ZR-1 are currently in high demand relative to supply is no excuse to charge an inflated price . Some call it the " early adopter " tax personally I prefer to call it greed on the part of the retailer. Their profit margins are baked in just as they are on items with adequate inventory. People remember when they are being taken advantage of and it can cost the vendors in the long run .
There have been numerous threads regarding this behavior back when dealers were charging as much as $ 40,000 over sticker for a Stingray even as recently as 2023 . Quite a few were demanding large deposits as well .And yes it's a very controversial topic for sure and you may find the general consensus interesting if you were to view a few of those threads . JMHO . And yes , I paid MSRP for my car .
 
It is perfectly Legal in Ontario as long as it is disclosed from the begin. You want it, buy it. If not feel free to wait around for the market to drop out. And yes, first car I ever agreed to pay MRSP for too. Glad I did...
I'm aware that if disclosed it's legal but that makes it no less distasteful.....very frequently over the years vehicles have been offered below MSRP for a variety of reasons whether it's excess inventory, factory incentives or perhaps new model releases, even Fords favorite " employee pricing " . It was a case of not wanting to pay as much as MSRP , not trying to pay as little as MSRP . I would say just like the crazy pricing of just about everything now it goes back to the gouging that started with the COVID excuse .
 
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Well the market has spoken, this car just sold at the dealer's asking price after being on the market less than a week. Congratulations to whoever bought it.

For the record, in '21 when the market dictated, I paid over MSRP for my C8, because i didn't want to wait 2 years. The demand is not that great for Erays so this time I received a very healthy discount off MSRP. That is just how supply and demand work.
 
Well the market has spoken, this car just sold at the dealer's asking price after being on the market less than a week. Congratulations to whoever bought it.

For the record, in '21 when the market dictated, I paid over MSRP for my C8, because i didn't want to wait 2 years. The demand is not that great for Erays so this time I received a very healthy discount off MSRP. That is just how supply and demand work.
Good to hear. Just curious, was the dealer asking the sticker price ? If so good on them. Personally I chose the dealer I went with for two reasons. One , because they are a relatively high volume dealer and two because they never ask for more than MSRP . Even when the C8 first became available. But of course to each their own . There are many willing to pay whatever it takes .
 
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Part of the problem is that the manufacturers list MSRP.
AFAIK Heinz doesn't list their MSRP for Ketchup.

Ketchup is for 8 year old's who love Carley Rae Jepson and the chick who sings about big butt's...
 
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As far as I'm concerned, these dealerships can ask whatever they want.
If you don't like the price, walk away.
The 'smart' dealerships (IMO) have reasons for not chasing the 'quick' money - it's called a long term vision fueled by repeat business.
Don't confuse their motives with a heightened sense of morality.
If they thought they could gather up extra profits without losing customers, they would be on it faster than a fat kid with a Snickers bar.
Take the same dealer with 2 cars - one being a new ZR1, and one being a 2019 ZR1 (almost zero kms).
How is it nobody says a word when the price tag on the 2019 is close to $300,000.00, but aghast if he asks over MSRP on the new one?
 
Good to hear. Just curious, was the dealer asking the sticker price ? If so good on them. Personally I chose the dealer I went with for two reasons. One , because they are a relatively high volume dealer and two because they never ask for more than MSRP . Even when the C8 first became available. But of course to each their own . There are many willing to pay whatever it takes .
$75K over
 
If there is a demand, there is always a buyer for short supply autos. The C8 Stingray was in that category the first few years and many buyers (not all of them) that were fortunate enough to get one flipped them almost immediately for a $30k profit. The majority of dealers saw this and said why are we selling for MSRP when the going resale rate is $30 over. Kudos for the ones that continued to sell at MSRP and the ones that didn't smiled all the way to the bank. Did it hurt their future business? Possibly on Corvettes but the vast majority of the population isn't interested in a Corvette and isn't buying Corvettes. They wouldn't even know dealers were scooping more profit on a luxury car. And back then if they lost a dozen customers out of thousands, that's a small piss in a big bucket. JMO
 
The car mentioned in this thread isn't even a full load car. The one that I tried to get an insurance quote for had a MSRP of $335k with $53k just in options.

Never mind market adjustment..................just do the current fees and taxes on the above $335k and it would be pushing this car's $455k price, if not even more.
 
Further proof why we can't vilify dealers for the ADM or consider this gouging.
1. given that this car sold for this amount in less than a week, then that is the current market price, regardless of MSRP.
2. Even if you take the dealer out of the equation, someone is making a huge profit on these cars.
Goes to show you that the consumer really sets the price.
 
Further proof why we can't vilify dealers for the ADM or consider this gouging.
1. given that this car sold for this amount in less than a week, then that is the current market price, regardless of MSRP.
2. Even if you take the dealer out of the equation, someone is making a huge profit on these cars.
Goes to show you that the consumer really sets the price.
It's still scalping but of course there are those who are willing to pay inflated prices for any number of reasons. And in some circumstances it may turn out to be a good investment depending on total production numbers and future demand. Depends on your motivation I suppose. Of course at the end of the day the market will decide.
 
Ready for this Jack. $455K out the door with ADM, lux tax and HST. For a Chevy
And folks were also aghast when Ford sold the 05/06 GT at $150k....now? Waaaaaaaaaaay over $500k or more!

GTD? Forgetabout it....."Best Sopranos impression I can muster"....

Last Gen Ford GT - "So you're saying there's a chance"....my best Dumb & Dumber impression.

Say what you will Jack, can't deny the ZR1 and ZR1X are hypercars for a fraction. Heck if Honda made them folks would say the same aka NSX.
 

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