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Don't dis Mr. Bean!
Elections Canada - Please Read post Number 1
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Don't dis Mr. Bean!
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Oh Richard. I'm disappointed.... Everything Carney says he's taken from the Conservatives...Not only what you see below but also the Northern defense initiative as well as the promise to increase our defensive capacity.
In the ongoing federal election, Liberal Leader Mark Carney, unable to defend the Liberal record during their lost decade in power, has stolen huge chunks of the Conservative platform.
This is nothing new for the Liberals, who routinely steal ideas from other political parties during elections before abandoning them after the election.
Here are a few examples of what this means.
It means Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre’s opposition to the Liberals’ consumer carbon tax — while Carney was in the private sector complaining carbon taxes weren’t high enough — was the right decision, as now conceded by the Liberals who scrapped it.
During the Liberal leadership race, Carney said Canada was in a weak economic position before U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs hit because of runaway federal government spending and excessively high immigration targets, again conceding that Poilievre and the Conservatives were right.
Carney has promised a tax cut if he wins the election, albeit smaller than the one Poilievre has pledged and another issue where the Conservatives led and the Liberals followed, because Poilievre was talking about the need for a tax cut long before Carney came up with the idea.
Carney and the Liberals have also promised to scrap their own plan to increase capital gains taxes, which Poilievre opposed when the Liberals first announced it, demonstrating yet again that the Carney Liberals have conceded that Poilievre was right.
There are other examples, but what voters should be asking themselves is who is more likely to implement the promises they’ve made as opposed to abandoning them, post election?
Is it the Conservatives who first recommended these initiatives, or the Johnny-come-lately Liberals who later cribbed them from the Conservatives?
The Liberal record isn’t reassuring.
Remember when former PM Justin Trudeau predicted three years of modest deficits — $9.9 billion in 2016, $9.5 billion in 2017 and $5.7 billion in 2018, followed by a $1 billion surplus in 2019 — during the 2015 election that brought him to power?
What he delivered was a $19-billion deficit in 2016, another $19-billion deficit in 2017, a $14-billion deficit in 2018 and in 2019, the year he had predicted a $1 billion surplus, a $39.4-billion deficit.
All of this before the pandemic hit in 2020 — so let the buyer be aware.
Where did this come from? The conservatives website? LOL
Easy now, we don’t want to give them even more ideas to claim as their own…..
Like there is anything novel in anything any candidate is saying? LOL They all try to one-up each other and say what we want to hear.Easy now, we don’t want to give them even more ideas to claim as their own…..
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Postmedia News Toronto Sun today. Or you could have paid attention back in November too.
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I don't give too much attention to one sided targeted opinions.
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I was referring more to the Conservative platform back late last year. Although the Sun clip had some opinion built in to it, it was also a statement identifying Carneys pretty obvious plagiarism.
Like I said, they all do it. However it's not plagiarism if it's an obvious thing to do. Apple tried to (did?) patent the 2 finger picture sizing. Google copied it. Apple sued. Google argued it was the logical thing to do and the courts agreed with Google.
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Appears Jagmeat has given up on being the next PM and is throwing his support with the Libs. He's scrambling right now to try and keep enough seats to maintain party status by letting everyone know what his party did for the Libs. Here's a quote ""Everything that the Liberals are pointing to, all the things they are saying that they achieved, literally would not have happened but for us," Singh said. "These are all things that we forced them to do."
And just for Murray who will likely ask me where this came from, here's the link.
And just for Murray who will likely ask me where this came from, here's the link.
Pure desperation in the hopes that the election results will mean they can kiss the backside of the Liberals again if they manage to get another minority government. Question is will they win enough seats to be able to do that ? I would guess that if any of them end up with a minority they will be making a deal with another party so they can pretend they do have a majority. Pretty sleazy arrangements in my opinion. Especially considering that they were just operating as if they were a majority government but with only 31% of actual support from the electorate. Doesn’t seem right. And yes I can already hear “ but that’s the way our system works “ . Well here’s a radical thought, perhaps it’s time to change the system.
As Mulroney so famously stated “ you had an option sir “ ……..Thank you for being honest and upfront!
So, it's NOT the Liberals fault after all!
No. combined they had more than 50%, but I can already hear the whining about it not being fair! lol
It is fair if they all agree on something. That means the majority of Canadians also likely agree.
Let's say that the Bloc, the NDP and the Libs ran with a platform with a dental care for seniors but the Cons argued against it. It is more than likely that the voters for the Bloc, the NDP and the Libs also wanted dental care. That means the majority of Canadians wanted dental care. What's more fair than that?
I'd also argue that the NDP and the Bloc could stop the Libs from doing something that only the Libs wanted. So again it works out fairly.
Name ONE thing that the Liberals wanted and didn’t get because of the NDP . Just one will do. And you can put as much lipstick on the pig as you like but it doesn’t change the fact that the Liberals themselves had only 31% of the vote.
I do not have time to banty words with you or dig up stuff to defend minority governments. Or the Liberals or any governments past or present. Use some actual arithmetic and add up the votes by the Libs, the NDP and the Bloc! It will come up with a majority of votes.
AND I did not say the NDP did or did not!!
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Coalition. I was simply referring to this statement and merely wanted to see an example is all.
“ I'd also argue that the NDP and the Bloc could stop the Libs from doing something that only the Libs wanted “
The whole political “ discussion “ thing is really getting tiresome because between it and the tariff situation it’s all we really hear about lately. 95% of it is either personal opinion or pure speculation. I think I’m going to try to ignore it all until the dust has settled and the next crisis arrives , lol . Above 0 today so I think I’ll go out and push the “Go “ button !
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I don't blame you. I'm getting really tired of it. I know who I'm voting for ... actually I don't! They changed our riding and even maybe the polling station! LOL! I just want (am glad) the election to be over with soon!! The we can start new rants!
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And if you add up the conservative votes with the Libs, the NDP, the Bloc, the Green, and the Peoples, it will come up with all the votes... lol.
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It's a toss up who was pushing who's buttons. I will take the Libs over the NDP any day....although...If Jagmeat formed a majority government, we'd have free heath care including free dental for all, free food and clothing, free gasoline, free electricity, free internet, free home heating fuel, free day care and baby sitting, huge raises for seniors, a living wage provided to the homeless complete with their own union, and zero taxes on everything. Who cares what the debt becomes. Half the population don't understand what it is anyway.... lol.... Hmmm.... maybe we should all vote NDP...Thank you for being honest and upfront!
So, it's NOT the Liberals fault after all!
